Baitcasting or Spinning?

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Baitcasting or Spinning?

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Hello,

Prospathisa na diavasw kai na mathw pies einai oi pragmatikes diafores metaxy twn baitcasting kai spinning rods kai reels sthn praxi kai parolo pou vrika kapoies apantiseis ithela na rwtisw tous psarades tou forum poia einai h gnwmh tous.

Dokimasa kai ta dyo kai protimw perissotero to spinning giati me to baitcasting, ontas arxarios :-P, plekw synexws ton nhma otan kanw casting. Ftiaxnontas to clatch kai ta sxetika diorthothike ligo h katastasi alla akoma 1 sta 6-7 castings mplekw to nhma.

Episis pio einai to kalytero gia ena baitcasting reel, h kanoniki misina h to nhma?

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san all around protimo to spinning giati mporeis na doulepsis ke elafria ke bareta dolomata

xanis omos epafi me to doloma

me to baitcasting exis poli perisoteri epafi me to doloma , perisotero sensitivity ke mporeis na ri2is to doloma telios a8oriva.
episis exis poli perisoteri dinami me to baitcasting.

oso gia to nima ke tin misina ine 8ema protimisis. ego xrisimopoio 100% nima edo ke xronia.

kapia dolomata douleuoun kalitera me spinning kapia me baitcasting

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Nai kw gw protimw to nhma kai prosexa oti ta back-lash lynontai pio eykola me to nhma :-P. Omws me to baitcasting otan prospathisw na rixw dynata 99% tha exw back-lash... Nomizw h texniki mou exei provlima.

Otan les athoriva ti enoeis? Sto mazema?
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MariosK wrote:Hello,

Prospathisa na diavasw kai na mathw pies einai oi pragmatikes diafores metaxy twn baitcasting kai spinning rods kai reels sthn praxi kai parolo pou vrika kapoies apantiseis ithela na rwtisw tous psarades tou forum poia einai h gnwmh tous.

Dokimasa kai ta dyo kai protimw perissotero to spinning giati me to baitcasting, ontas arxarios :-P, plekw synexws ton nhma otan kanw casting. Ftiaxnontas to clatch kai ta sxetika diorthothike ligo h katastasi alla akoma 1 sta 6-7 castings mplekw to nhma.

Episis pio einai to kalytero gia ena baitcasting reel, h kanoniki misina h to nhma?
MariosK!

Proswpika protimw to baitcasting sxedon gia ola ta applications. To provlima me ta backlashes na min se anisixei, siga siga tha meiwthei para poly. Pote den tha exafanistei, alla tha ginei poly spanio.

Me to baitcasting vriskw oti exw poly megalyteri akriveia stis voles, se arketes periptwseis (oxi oles) petyxainw kalyteres apostaseis, kai sigoura exw exairetika kalytero feel tou ti kanei ana pasa stigmi to dolwma mou (sensitivity). Den eimai sigouros 100% an auto ennoei o PrEdAtΩR, alla me to b/c mporeis na exeis aristo elegxo tou dolwmatos otan peftei sto nero. Episis otan matheis tin texniki tou flipping and pitching, i akriveia kai athoryvi eisodos tou dolwmatos otan mpainei sto nero einai apisteuti. Genika vriskw to b/c ws pio ergonomiko, pio "synexeia tou xeriou mou". Omws gnwrizw atoma me aristes gnwseis kai peira pou niwthoun etsi mono me spinning.

Twra, an skopeveis na rixneis poly elafria dolwmata syxna isws to spinning na einai kalyteri epilogi. Mporeis na kaneis wraies kai petyxemenes voles me b/c kai elafria dolwmata alla theleis peira kai practice kai apolyta isorropimeno exoplismo. Episis, na thymasai oti o anemos epireazei simantika tis rixies sto b/c kai prepei panta na ton lamvaneis yp' opsin...

Den xerew episis ti exoplismo exeis gia b/c, i swsti isorropia ston exoplismo tou b/c einai (kata tin gnwmi mou) poly pio simantiki apo oti sto spinning (eidika gia apofygi backlashes kai kalyteres voles).

Egw proswpika xrisimopoiw pia spinning mono gia poly elafria dolwmata (katw twn 5 grammariwn), kai gia dyo sygkekrimmenes texnikes stis opoies akomi na vrw kalami me to action to opoio thelw akrivws se baitcasting (alla tha vrw!).

Telws oson afora to nima, edw kai xronia xrisimopoiw sxedon apokleistika nima. Lew sxedon, giati twra xrisimopoiw monofilament gia mia sygkekrimmeni texniki. Gia oles tis alles texnikes (eite b/c eite spinning) einai 100% nima kai den me vlepw na epistrefw pisw....

Sto forum yparxoun kai alloi xristes kai twn dyo texnikwn, elpizw kai autoi na sou dwsoun tin gnwmi tous. Alla sto telos na thymasai oti einai ti volevei kalytera esena!
There is fishing, and there is BASS FISHING!
ALWAYS PRACTICE CATCH AND RELEASE!!!

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CyBasser wrote: Me to baitcasting vriskw oti exw poly megalyteri akriveia stis voles, se arketes periptwseis (oxi oles) petyxainw kalyteres apostaseis, kai sigoura exw exairetika kalytero feel tou ti kanei ana pasa stigmi to dolwma mou (sensitivity). Den eimai sigouros 100% an auto ennoei o PrEdAtΩR, alla me to b/c mporeis na exeis aristo elegxo tou dolwmatos otan peftei sto nero. Episis otan matheis tin texniki tou flipping and pitching, i akriveia kai athoryvi eisodos tou dolwmatos otan mpainei sto nero einai apisteuti. Genika vriskw to b/c ws pio ergonomiko, pio "synexeia tou xeriou mou". Omws gnwrizw atoma me aristes gnwseis kai peira pou niwthoun etsi mono me spinning.
Enoeis oti mporeis na meiwseis thn taxitita tou dolomatos otan peftei sto nero? Auto akougete poly endiaferon. Tha to dokimasw thn epomeni fora. Elpizw na petyxw kapoia stigmi kapoion apo sas se kapoio fragma :-). Allo h thewria kai allo na to vlepeis praktika.
CyBasser wrote: Den xerew episis ti exoplismo exeis gia b/c, i swsti isorropia ston exoplismo tou b/c einai (kata tin gnwmi mou) poly pio simantiki apo oti sto spinning (eidika gia apofygi backlashes kai kalyteres voles).
H alithia einai oti o exoplismos mou den einai kai poly kalos giati pira dokimastika ena kalami kai mia mixani gia na dokimasw auto to psarema. Mou arese poly to feeling tou baitcasting alla eixa dyo vasika provlimata. To ena einai to backlash kai to allo einai oti niwthw ligo varia thn mixani kai tini na mou strivei to kalami pros ta aristera (h mixani mou einai gia aristeroxires). Isws se ayto na fteei kai h poiothta. Tha koitaxw avrio ta xaraktiristika kai tha ta kanw post.
CyBasser wrote: Telws oson afora to nima, edw kai xronia xrisimopoiw sxedon apokleistika nima. Lew sxedon, giati twra xrisimopoiw monofilament gia mia sygkekrimmeni texniki. Gia oles tis alles texnikes (eite b/c eite spinning) einai 100% nima kai den me vlepw na epistrefw pisw....
Otan leme nima kai fireline einai to idio pragma swsta? Giati otan zitisa nima sto katastima mou edwsan fireline legontas mou oti auto einai kalytero. To xrisimopoiw edw kai ena xrono kai prepei na paradextw oti axizei ta lefta sou. Exei poly kalo sensitivity kai poly smooth casting.

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file cybasser makari na eixame estw j llies p tes gnwseis emeis oi pio neoi sto xwro , itan na pio efkolo na xrhsimopoume toutous tous exoplismous..
ti les na kanonisete kan1 seminario mesw t cfaa ? egw tha t evriska poly endiaferon! :D

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sifu-nas wrote:file cybasser makari na eixame estw j llies p tes gnwseis emeis oi pio neoi sto xwro , itan na pio efkolo na xrhsimopoume toutous tous exoplismous..
ti les na kanonisete kan1 seminario mesw t cfaa ? egw tha t evriska poly endiaferon! :D
Simfonw apolyta :D

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otan apoktisis poli empiria 8a mporis me kapies texnikes pou ipe o cybasser na to ka8iskis a8oriva to doloma sou

men to 8eorisis omos oti to baitcasting ine aman aman kati pou prepei na 3eris. ke me to spinning kalami kamis ti doulia sou mia xara.

oso gia tin fireline , den ine nima alla kati paromio. apo poiotita ego to 8eoro xalia. an se euxaristi omos sinexise to

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file predator esy th xrisimopoias anti yia th fire line?
egw aplh 25ara misina ths berkley thn ultra thin sensitive.

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e3artatai me ti doloma douleuo

genika

me spinning 15-20 lb nima

me baitcasting 30-50lb nima


i misina sou se open water ine mia xara

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PrEdAtΩR wrote:otan apoktisis poli empiria 8a mporis me kapies texnikes pou ipe o cybasser na to ka8iskis a8oriva to doloma sou

men to 8eorisis omos oti to baitcasting ine aman aman kati pou prepei na 3eris. ke me to spinning kalami kamis ti doulia sou mia xara.
Sinithos exw stimena mazi mou panta 2-3 kalamia ena apo ta opia einai baitcasting opote an dw oti den tsimpa tipote kamnw practise synexeia :-).
PrEdAtΩR wrote: oso gia tin fireline , den ine nima alla kati paromio. apo poiotita ego to 8eoro xalia. an se euxaristi omos sinexise to
Vasika an to fireline den einai nima tote den exw dokimasei nima :shock: !!!. Mporeite na mou sistisete kapoio gia na dokimasw? Gia baitcasting protimw an exei diafora.

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Egw petassw lefta panw sta nimata edw ke 8 xronia gia to spinning ke edokimasa ta ola stin agora dakato (nomizw)...Nima pou kamei gia spinning file prepi na eine apo uliko 'dyneema', na grafei panw sto kouti 100% dyneema.. pu kupriaki agora, ws twra arese mu to Berkey whiplash ke to Mustad dynamite to opoio xrisimopoiw twra.
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εγώ εν έχω καθόλου πήρα στες baitcasters αλλά πριν λίον τζαιρόν έπιασα μιάν... επεία που τον κύριο Ευάνθη τζαι έδειξεν μου λεπτωμερός τα διάφορα της μηχανής τούτης, τζαι πως να σείρω κτλ τζαι εξεκείνησα... σχετικά πολλά καλά αφού ακόμα να μου κάμει σοβαρούς κόμπους... εδοκείμασα την τζαι στο φράχτη τζαι στην θάλασσα... τζαι ήβρα την φοβερά βολική για θάλασσα που βάλλω ψαράκια από 40-50γρ++ για φράχτη ήβρα το πολλά άβολο για μένα, τζαι ειδικά άμαν φυσά αέρας....αλλά είμαι σίγουρος πως ίσως με κάποια άλλη baitcaster(σίουρα πιο μικρή ποτζίνην πόχω) θα ήταν καλλύττερα για μένα τζαι στον φράχτη
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Φίλε μου,
Εγώ χρησιμοποιώ εδώ και αρκετό καιρό baitcasting equipment. Οι πληροφορίες που σου έδωσαν οι άλλοι ψαράδες εδώ είναι σωστές. Και τα δύο είδη έχουν τα καλά και τα κακά τους. Ή ας πούμε υπάρχουν τεχνικές που αρμόζουν καλύτερα στο ένα ή στο άλλο είδος. Κάτι παρόμοιο συμβαίνει και με τις μησύνες.

Η γνώμη μου εμένα είναι να συνεχίσεις με spinning πρώτα, επειδή λες πως είσαι αρχάριος. Θα πρέπει να το μάθεις έτσι κι αλοιώς. Το κόστος για baitcasting καλής ποιότητας είναι πολύ μεγαλύτερο. Έτσι αν αρχίσεις λάθος τότε θα ξοδέψεις πολλά λεφτά άδικα. Ο μεγαλύτερος κίνδυνος όμως είναι να απογοητευτείς από τα birdnests και γενικά την έλλειψη πείρας (χρειάζεσαι περισσότερη εξάσκηση με baitcasting) και να τα παρατήσεις και θα ήταν κρίμα.

Είμαι και εγώ αριστερόχειρας οπότε θα βόλευε να δεις και να χρησιμοποιήσεις τον εξοπλισμό μου κάποια μέρα.
I'd rather be fishing!

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